Google Pagerank Patent and USPTO

Ideas win only lead times to get into market. Patents enforce the practical use of the ideas restrcting other entry. Software is any business with tangible business value. I se value in Google Pagerank tangibility hypothesis. US may lose if Google decides to apply future patents in India rather than US and host them in India. So USTPO is not supreme.

Some comments first to guage the reaction to article about Pagerank patent going poof.

http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/07/22/google-pagerank-patent-may-go-poof

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Submitted by toto (WPN reader) on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 11:19pm.
Ebay.
So Ebay BUY IT NOW and AUCTION patented processes are invalid?

Submitted by busbyseo (WPN reader) on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 10:40pm.
already used by other SE's
I think Google PageRank or a derivative of it , is already in use by the other major search engines , so relax of patent will not make much difference , plus google has evolved way past what is on the record , take more that that to bother them , greatly

Submitted by Business networking (WPN reader) on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 8:35pm.
what does that mean for Google?
So what does that mean for Google? does this mean that if their pagerank patent is not valid, that microsoft could use a few billion dollars to copy the algorithym and market it to compete directly with Google?

Submitted by Ken (WPN reader) on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 6:14pm.
NO patents
I have mixed feelings about giving patents to software, I tend to believe that they the creators of software should only have copywrite protection, but is that enough? What about royalities due them and lawsuits on infringers?
It is complicated.




Submitted by Peter (IMC) (WPN reader) on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 5:27pm.
From one extreme to the other
Let's see,.. you spend lots of time and money on developping something that didn't exist before, (isn't that what an invention is?) so you can say you own that what you created on your own. And then you´re not allowed to protect your own property?
That makes no sense what so ever!
"Some have claimed software patents affect far too broad a scope of potential innovation"
This quote couldn't be more wrong. If everybody is allowed to copy stuff that already exists then they´re not going to bother inventing a new and better way.
I could agree with the idea that being allowed to protect even a different way to tie your shoes is going too far. But going from one extreme into the other isn't helping anybody.
I can already see the next search engine claiming to be better than Google because they use Google technology with a twist. A lot of investors are going to loose a lot of money on these things.


Submitted by Amiya Sarkar (WPN reader) on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 5:06pm.
pagerank
It is still an important metric of a site's standing, in terms of relevancy. Alexa rank on the other hand provides info on the site's visitor numbers. Patended or not I wouldn't mind seeing that green bar on the browser.

Submitted by seo syracuse (WPN reader) on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 4:57pm.
Interesting
As noted above page rank as a unit of measurement for rankings means little, there is some forward thinking that crawl rate and cache date holds more value when predicting a sites rankings.

Submitted by Guest (WPN reader) on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 3:19pm.
too much power/ google ambient audio is listening to your convo
well, it's good that Google kicks kicked about once in a while.
I just can't understand how they have been blatantly infringing on people's copyrights all this time. I think yeah, sociallly it's a wonderful tool, but they are stealing others' creations. There's just no other way to look at it.
Also, it's almost impossible to come up with something without them announcing something to squash the attempts. They have all kinds of "shelved" stuff to ward off would-be inventors.
Google has gone way past simple search and has infiltrated every facet of our society and it turning into another Microsoft but worst in my opinion.
Soon we'll be wearing Gooogle of the Loom underwear instead of Fruit of the Loom. I got that scare already , thank goodness it was just blurry morning eyesight. haha
PLUS this invention here is unsettling to me: They have a way to LISTEN to conversations and make search tags based on conversations in the room you are in. FREAKY!!
Another McCandless Corp. in the Freejack movie in the making!!
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070715-google-patent-envisions-using-ambient-audio-from-tv-for-searches-ads.html
Go ahead an look on th egovernment site, they are serious about it.
I don't want Google suggesting a marriage counseling service, and suggesting some local clothing stores if my wife yells about not getting that new dress, you know? I can just see it now...
Google Counselor (Beta) coming soon to a screen near you!
Hmm.. me thinks I know why they want to get their hands on the mobile radio spectrum so bad now...

Submitted by RoyD. (WPN reader) on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 10:53pm.
Well hell.
"Soon we'll be wearing Gooogle of the Loom underwear instead of Fruit of the Loom. I got that scare already , thank goodness it was just blurry morning eyesight. haha"

LOL! That had me LMAOF! I know what you mean. We are under attack by Google! I hope they retroactively invalidate all software patents. The world will be better without software patents. It's getting ridiculous already.

Submitted by sajjad (WPN reader) on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 2:16pm.
It will hardly make
It will hardly make a difference to google at this stage.

Submitted by SEO leeds (WPN reader) on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 2:00pm.
The value of opinion
The thing with page rank is, not how many people are in the know that it doesn't mean very much, or the fact that it doesn't mean very much - its the influence it has upon the millions of website owners who are not in the know and who attribute a value to it - has to be worth keeping hold of!

Submitted by Kameir (WPN reader) on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 1:19pm.
Patents: A Game for Lawyers
Patents are a game for lawyers. If you have no intention of using it you do not deserve protection. If you put it ino action - and it is any good - you should naturally reap the benefits from it, regardless of any (formal) patent.
Given the lenght of the patent process it is mostly useless for cutting edge solutions.
When XEROX developed a graphic user interface ("Windows") Apple stole it first and then Microsoft. It was probably one of three most important development of the computer area. Had it been sitting in a drawer at XEROX who knows if home computers would have ever taken on the way they did.

Submitted by Link Building (WPN reader) on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 1:11pm.
doesn't matter
Google gives a very little or no importance to page rank. so it would not matter much to google as it already moved beyond page rank.

Submitted by Joe (WPN reader) on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 12:24pm.
google patent
Once you possess the vast market power that google holds, intellectual properties become less important in holding competitors at bay. Yahoo search results substantially mimic google in any event. The two search engines both employ link counting. They tweak it with other factors (page quality indicators from the referring page and the receiving page itself). Bottom line: even if Google's patent goes "poof", it will be like a tree falling in an empty forest. No one will hear it. A non-event.

Submitted by Justin Goldberg (WPN reader) on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 12:10pm.
Google has moved quite a bit
Google has moved quite a bit beyond pagerank. It's not 1997 anymore. Sheesh. And google hasn't patented the 100 or 200 page quality indicators, which are the real secrets. If they did we would all know what they are.